Gabriel Mizrahi & Jordan Harbinger | The Reverse Interview (Episode 572)

Gabriel Mizrahi (@GabeMizrahi) is a film and television writer, former host of The Lip TV, and long-time friend who turns the tables and interviews The Art of Charm’s very own Jordan Harbinger (@TheArtofCharm) in this one.

The Cheat Sheet:

  • Learn more about The Art of Charm’s origin story and its continuing evolution.
  • What does it mean to “Huck Finn” your way through life?
  • What’s the cost of trimming the fat from an incredible success story?
  • How can you tell the difference between people who offer genuine life lessons and so-called gurus who use the self-help platform as a pyramid scheme?
  • The role of luck in business and relationships.
  • And so much more…


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For 571 episodes (not counting bonuses, Fan Mail Fridays, or Minisode Mondays), Jordan Harbinger has been interviewing the world’s top performers to find out what makes them tick.

For episode 572, writer Gabriel Mizrahi turns the mic around (so to speak) to find out what makes Jordan tick. Think of this as a comfortable fireside chat between two old friends and storytellers as they swap anecdotes, speculate over current trends, and — as you’ve come to expect on this show — dispense advice that’s practical and actionable. Pull up a chair and enjoy!

More About This Show

Gabriel Mizrahi and Jordan Harbinger have years of experience interviewing people with backgrounds ranging from entertainment industry stalwarts to national security honchos to secular philosophers to productivity gurus to spacewalking astronauts. And while Gabriel and Jordan have each been interviewed on other programs, this might be the first time in nearly a decade that Jordan has been interviewed on his own show.

But 2016 is a strange year, and it ain’t over yet.

This episode came about largely in part because The Art of Charm gets a lot of email from listeners who are looking for ways to improve their lives — and a change in career or striking out as an entrepreneur is often the first thing they’ll try. But what happens when someone pursues something they really care about and, a year into it, they just can’t get the traction to succeed? How long does anyone need to struggle before giving up on a dream?

Gabriel and Jordan have each taken this journey and seem to be doing all right for themselves (knock on wood!), so they share the ensuing conversation with the rest of us in this extended episode of The Art of Charm. It doesn’t matter if you’re not interested in a career change or becoming an entrepreneur, because the conversation covers plenty of other territory too.

Listen to it in its entirety if you want to learn more about the origins of The Art of Charm, what led to Jordan’s choice to go to law school, the dangers of default thinking, how to tell when someone’s peddling legitimate life advice or a self-help pyramid scheme, Jordan’s experiences with imposter syndrome, the best way Jordan was ever fired, why the most memorable success stories are rarely the whole stories, the risks of turning your hobby into a job, where startups and marketers go wrong, why it can be tempting to go down the wrong path for the sake of ego, how to stay curious as you get older and more mature, and lots more.


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AJ Harbinger - author of 1049 posts on The Art of Charm

AJ Harbinger is one of the world’s top relationship development experts. His company, The Art of Charm, is a leading training facility for top performers that want to overcome social anxiety, develop social capital and build relationships of the highest quality. Raised by a single father, AJ felt a strong desire to learn about relationships and the elements that make them successful. However, this interest went largely untapped for many years. Following the path set out for him by his family, AJ studied biology in college and went on to pursue a Ph.D. in Cancer Biology at the University of Michigan. It was at this time that he began to feel immense pressure from the cancer lab he worked in and began to explore other outlets for expression. It was at this point that The Art of Charm Podcast was born.

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